Theres been a lot of talk about cults on Buddhajones. So be it, people write, read and talk about what interests them. Its natural.
Cult, as in culture. We all seek our tribe, we all seek validation. Being as there is no meter for which to judge ones life path and seeing how life is in reality an open blank canvas, humans tend to flock to each other searching for groups of the like-minded from which they can extract varying feelings of Im ok, what I think and feel is right and normal.
Soka Gakkai certainly has its cult-ure, and like every culture it has its subcultures. There are many whom are angry at SGI for a whole host of reasons. The bottom line is that SGI has grown into a huge and rich organization - for better or for worse - its just natural. SGI has followed along the same path as any tribe seeking wealth and security, both of which are needed for any group wishing to transmit a message, whether that be the message of consumerism or the message of religious truth.
There are no secret SGI cult-leader training camps. Ive been in SGI long enough to know if there was (If I find out there is secret camps, and I havn't been invited, I'll be pissed - there's nothing so fun as training in a secret camp). No leader is taught to give cult-like guidance to members, telling them who they should marry or not, how they should dress, how they should groom. These things certainly happen, of this I have no doubt, but theyre made up on an individual basis and you can be certain they will be reinvented again and again.
SGI critics who feel that SGI leaders should be corrected in their cultish behavior, perhaps even censured when appropriate, fail to see their opinions through to their logical conclusion. A management system vast enough to enact checks and balances would certainly amount to a private corporation-for-profit with layers of supervisors, managers and senior leaders all reviewing, reporting, hiring and firing. SGI is, or was at one point, an open canvas. Leaders are, for better or for worse able to make it up as they go. Since cultism is a human function, like any disease, it certainly appears in SGI.
Ive trained all my life. Ive trained in music, medicine, martial arts, corporate culture, telecommunications, and a host of other subjects, (some too dark to discuss). At the Monterey Area Mens division meeting this Tuesday I listened to a long-time member describe with fond feelings his youth division training. I reflected quietly on how most people dont have opportunities to train in their lives. SGI, whether one considers it cultish or not, provides that opportunity for many. Some build families, careers, even their very lives based on training they get in SGI.
Whether or not one considers SGI a cult, people I know and trust have trained in SGI based on Nam Myoho Renge Kyo and the Buddhism of Nichiren Daishonin. The truth of this training is reflected in their lives and in how they view the world. People lie with words, its only natural, but circumstances and the function of fortune or misfortune is something you cant lie about. Regardless of the words that come from your mouth, ones life paints an accurate picture of what is really inside of each of us. The very truth of Nichiren himself lies in what happened to him during his life rather than just who he was. This is one reason Nichirens Buddhism is so potent compared to historys too-numerous-to-count prophets and gurus whose legitimacy is based merely on personality traits.
If you have been harmed by SGI, accept my personal apology. If you find you cannot practice in your SGI local organization, again Im sorry for that. If, in your personal quest, feel that it is your mission to uncover ever cult plot in SGI and then avoid it like the plague, thus reassuring yourself of how anti-cult you really are, I congratulate you.
However in the end it will be your own responsibility to account for whether or not you have practiced Nichiren Buddhism sincerely, and whether or not you have realized fulfillment in your life. Blaming SGI or anyone for the wounds you carry will never allow them to heal.
But however you proceed just dont expect me or anyone else in SGI to leave because you couldnt manage your relationships.
Rev. Greg, Shidoshi
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Greg,
So far, this is the most intelligent thing anyone has said regarding the issue of cultism in SGI. Yeah, I'm sure there is some that happens, but, let's face it, there are assholes in every group and SGI is no exception.
I think that SGI is a relatively small religious group that is struggling to survive in the turbulent market place of religion and philosphy. Hence, the org shoots itself in the foot sometimes. Religious credibility has never come easily in this world.
Just look at the Catholic Church. It has had it St. Francis of Asisi's and it has had it Torquemadas.
In a human organization, mistakes will be made.
Eddie
Hi Greg.
Great work again.
It is truly amazing that anyone can get away with any cult-like crap in this org when we have Nichiren talking to us from 172 Gosho. If you ignore Nichiren's life and writings and just follow the cho then who can you blame? WWND?
Michael
If Jung is correct and as a species we all share a collective subconscious, why shouldn't a religious organization share a collective karma? It's has to go through it's shit too, reflecting back to it's members where it/they are at. Don't kill the messenger. Clean the mirror.
Leis
ps I just read on the internet a Jackie Stones' translation of a yet to be translated Nichiren Gosho. Does that make 173? And like most of her work, it's an arduous read.
Eddie.
You are so right.
David.
Please post the link.
Greg.
Right On!!! Been to the secret training camps. They exist. You can tell they're so secret cause no one shows up. But, you are invited if you wish to come.
To cult or not to cult, that is the question. Frankly, it shouldn't matter if one is seeing tangible proof of their practice, and can recognize benefit from participating with SGI-USA.
Miki Y.
Jackie Stone translationis on etherbods.com
Just a note about the gosho - the WND has translated only about 1/2 of what is in the Gosho Zenshu. And strangely, there are a lot of authenticated gosho (including 3 of the ten major writings) that SGI has not translated. It is really curious to me. The Nichiren Shu is now translating a seven volume collection of authenticated writings through the University of Hawaii. The first two are already out - they are called The Writings of Nichiren Shonin. There are already several gosho in those which SGI has not translated. Also, the Nichiren Shu translations are ultiamtely based on the more scholarly Showa Teihon collection of Nichiren's writings.
Namu Myoho Renge Kyo,
Ryuei
Hi Greg,
I also wanted to say that I really appreciate what you have had to say here about cults and culture. I think it is important to realize that cultism is something that crops up everywhere all the time.
I am as skeptical as Brian Holley about allegations of brainwashing. At the same time, I think that Brian and others are not taking seriously enough the fact that some really cruel emotional manipulation and manipulation of facts and access to information is pervasive in the Soka Gakkai all the way up to the highest levels. And I think that regardless of what lable you want to put on it - the fact that people have been cruelly used and abused by the org needs to be acknoledged and addressed. I hear truly horrendous stories all the time - just check out the taiten yahoo group for a few.
At the same time, I think you are right in that people can't just blame it all on SGI. We do set ourselves up to be manipulated. I think the best thing is not to wallow in blame or even guilt but to move on. Moving on is really the best revenge in any case isn't it? Better even than a hit team of cyborg ninja...
Joking aside, once one has processed and detoxed from what one has been through, then moving on and finding a more positive and aware outlook, using the best and leaving the rest of what one has experienced, is I think, the way to wholeness.
Namu Myoho Renge Kyo,
Ryuei
Greg breaks the news: "There are no secret SGI cult-leader training camps." Gee, I don't know of *anyone* who has ever made this allegation, but thanks for debunking it...as you whistle past the graveyard.
There is peer pressure, phobia indoctrination, distortion of Nichiren's teachings, financial secrecy, and information control in SGI -- all part of SGI "culture" as you call it. Many would say that this culture has quite a lot in common with a cult, but if you don't see the connection, you don't see the connection.
I don't know of anyone who is asking or expecting SGI members to leave SGI. Is that why you're so defensive about this subject? Because you think someone is telling you to leave? I know I'm not.
One thing that was hammered into SGI members' heads during the height of the Temple Issue campaign is that even if an organization of people chants daimoku and purports to practice Nichiren Buddhism to the best of their ability, that organization is not immune to corruption. I agree.
Many people have been hurt by SGI, and they have chosen to "manage" that relationship by leaving the organization and telling others about their experiences. Yeah, some are angry. In many cases, anger is a natural and appropriate response, considering many of these former members' experiences. You may say that's just "blaming the SGI," but others see it as calling a spade a spade.
What's interesting to me is the anger of current SGI members, especially those who angrily defend SGI, claiming that it's not a cult. They essentially say, "It can't be cult because I would never be in a cult, and I know what I'm talking about but those other people don't. They have problems and don't know how to be responsible, but I do. My mind would never succumb to undue influence and my emotions could never be manipulated. Trust me." It all smacks of fearful denial to me.
I mean, if the cult accusation is as patently and obviously absurd as you and others claim, why get so worked up about it?
No, no one's asking you to leave, Greg. Maybe what you're hearing is your conscience.
Take care,
Lisa J.
Lisa - I have no conscience that I am aware of. In reality, the Bujinkan has been accused by many of being a warriorship cult. In this way I am a DOUBLE cult member, which perhaps is why I'm so immune.
Human vision works this way. Each eye has differing degrees of vision, and this imperfection between the two lends itself to depth perception. Without both eyes, depth perception is difficult.
How about if I add this to my blog. "If you have been harmed by SGI, you should leave".
Oh, and by the way, I never said SGI is not a cult.
Rev. Greg, cult minion
"Everyone's carrying signs, mostly say 'hurrah for our side'". I don't know much. But I want to know more. I'm tired of being pissed off and I want to enjoy my life. Mostly because it's MY LIFE. The more compassion I gain for others, the more I can enjoy my life. Thanks to everyone. I'm a dork.
Leis
What I forgot to include is that a trust betrayed bequeaths a bitter legacy. Trust is very fragile. Easily distroyed. But I for one don't want to live my life in bitterness any longer. And it's not about forgiveness. It's about empowerment.
And can someone tell me how to add a web link to one of these blogs? Please.
Leis the Dork
David - thanks for such sincere replies... I agree with you totally. It IS your life. As a minister I search for ways to lead people to a place where they don't fear trying and experiencing new things in terms of their own beliefs and practices.
It's difficult being Gakkai, because even I am conditioned toward "the only correct path for everyone". Regardless of what any of us believe, there isn't A correct path. I personally reject the very concept of "correct" in Buddhism, even Nichiren Buddhism.
I hope Lisa was able to hear my response. The harsh reality of human life is such that people will be harmed by local SGI leaders (leaders meaning pretty much anyone in SGI) and will have to leave.
I just wish for everyone that they will have the courage to try and make something work before they bolt. Running away makes one's life smaller and smaller.
Thanks again everyone.
Rev. Greg