The comments generated by my piece on Islam have been thoughtful and inspiring to me, and I am appreciative of all the folks who took the time to offer them (and I recommend that others check them out - you can see them at the end of the previous article on this site). One person in particular (thanks, Richard!) wrote this:
"I was really surprised at this post of yours. When reading these snippets from Islamic writings, did it occur to you to try to put them in their cultural context?"
Richard then provided a quote from Nichiren's writings which could lead one "not familiar with the context of Nichiren Buddhism [to] think ours is an amazingly crude and warlike piece of dangerous zealotry!" Richard concluded his remarks saying:
"Like all religions propagated by the countless incarnations of the Eternal Buddha of the 16th Chapter, Islam has the seed of provisional truth within it. It's practitioners are no more or less successful than the followers of every other provisional religion in separating the rice from the filth."
I recommend Richard's entire post. The point he makes is well taken, but I am unconvinced that, at its core, it is correct. I am not a historian, but I have paid attention, and I agree with Richard that context, both cultural and historical, are important in evaluating any teachings and their impact. In the case of Islam, I believe that the history and the culture involved support my original point. In looking at the teachings of Nichiren Buddhism, and its practitioners, while some examples of zealotry and misguided fanaticism can be found, what can NOT be found is an ongoing historical or societal trend. The reverse is true of Islam.
One can consistently see, from the very beginnings of Islamic history, examples of Muslim believers casually accepting the notion that violence is justifiable and permissable under their religious banner. One can find nations ruled this way and centuries of conquests carried out in the name of it. Even the great Christian-generated conflicts were not primarily inspired by religion, but rather used religion as a disguise for more mundane motivations, such as greed, lust for power and land acquisition. In contrast, the Muslim conquests were primarily motivated by the mandate inherent in Islam. This is not to say that lust and greed were not present, as well, but to point out rather that they were ancillary in instigating conflict, rather than primary.
In addition, one can observe the means and methods of Islamic rule and see clear contrasts to both Western nations and Japan and other countries influenced by Buddhism. Islam institutionalizes inequality. This can be seen in its attitudes toward women, as well as in its attitudes toward non-believers living in Islamic theocracies. People "of the Book" are permitted, even welcomed, but they do not share equal status under the laws, are taxed differently, and so forth. Information on all of this is readily available.
And, as I mentioned briefly in my original article, only in some Islamic nations today can the continued practice of chattel slavery as a matter of course be found. This is inherently fine with Islamic teaching.
What I get from all of this is that, while one may be able to point to passages in Nichiren's writings or in the teachings of other religions that are apparently similar to some of the material that can be found in Islamic teachings (such as those quoted in my original piece), when one views these things in context, only in Islam do we find consistency in practice, both culturally and over the entire history of Islam, of the violence and other unpleasant aspects I have addressed. This can simply not be said of other religious teachings or their adherents on any similar scale. Islam may have the "seed of provisional truth within it," and it may be true that many of its modern adherents do not embrace the more radical aspects of that faith, but it cannot be said that any other teaching has inspired among so many, for so long, and so consistently, a level of behavior that is at all comparable to that of Muslim believers, and this continues today. Some contend that it is on the rise, and I would not disagree.
In closing these remarks I feel confident reasserting what I said in the final words of my previous article. I can't think of any teachings more erroneous, and more responsible for suffering, than fundamentalist Islam. We ignore it at our peril.
Comments
Andy,
I continue to believe that you are viewing Islam from a cultural filter that prevents you from objectivity. You mention the religious tenor of the Muslim conquests (which, it must be pointed out were centuries ago) while apparently forgetting the role of the invocation of God in pro-war propaganda in every Western war ever fought. It was not Allah, but the Christian God that was the bomber pilot's "co-pilot" in WWII.
You point to the institutionalized discrimination of women in Islam, while seeming to forget the institutionalized discrimination of women in this country. While we objectify women through Victoria's Secret fashion shows on prime time TV, Islam objectifies women through full coverage bhurkas. It's amusing to see people at both extremes point fingers to the other in smug superiority. Certainly the German Turk, or Black South African, or the Catholic in Ulster, the Palestinian in Israel or Jew just about anyplace would find it strange to learn that religious discrimination is only to be found in Islamic countries. So too would the millions of teenage girls in Southeast Asia trapped in the sex trade find it interesting that chattel slavery is only to be found in Muslim countries.
Violence and warfare? The two global conflicts labeled "World Wars" were not fought for Allah. The 30,000 nuclear warheads threatening the world with mass destruction were not built to carry out jihad. Landmines, anthrax, mustard gas, napalm and depleted uranium shells were not invented or used to further Islam.
Further, it is not Islam that keeps so many oil producing countries in the grips of dictatorships whose ascension to and maintenance of power depends on the clout and largesse of Western oil companies. If you want to paint a broad brush of generalities, then look at oil, not religious affiliation, when trying to explain the violence of the Middle East. That violence is much more correlated to oil - with instability seen in on-Muslim oil countries like Nigeria and Venezuela, while basically absent from non-oil producing Muslim nations like Bangladesh or Malaysia.
I could go on, but I think you get my point.
Hi Andy,
In this and your previous article you express many of the same concerns I have about Islam. In fact, A few months ago I read through the Koran with extensive commentaries by an Indian Muslim, and a book on the religion of Islam by a liberal Pakistani Muslim. Then I read Karen Armstrong's apologia and a book called "What Went Wrong" and "Why I Am Not A Muslim" by Ibn Waraq (which I highly recommend as an antidote to the more liberal apologia. I came away with the feeling that in Islam one finds a pre-industrial (heck almost pre-agricultural) law code which is made static and unchangeable due to its sanctification. And furthermore, because of that sanctification, its believers feel that they must impose that system on their societies. It would be as if the Levitical laws of the Hebrew Bible were forced upon us today. But fortunately, modern Jews and Christians do not believe that the ancient Biblical law code needs to be imposed just as it is because God demands it. Even the Buddhist monastic precepts (among the most reasonable and well balanced system of precepts I have ever seen - even when compared with the Rule of St. Benedict I think) would be unworkable were it imposed on modern monks and nuns in a Northern climate in modern urban societies. Even the Theravadins themselves have stretched or even broken some of those precepts - and those are just for monastics. To impose a tribal law code on modern people (or almost modern people) the way the Taliban did in the cities and countryside of Afghanistan or the way the Iranian people are oppressed by the clerics there shows the consequences of this. You can't have any amendments or use reason or fit the precept to the society when it is all supposedly given directly by God (or Allah) for all time. This is at the heart of my concerns.
Namu Myoho Renge Kyo,
Ryuei
You said (above), Richard: "I could go on, but I think you get my point."
I do indeed get your point; you make it well. I just don't agree.
What you espouse is pretty much the stock PC rhetoric of moral equivalency put forth by the left. In my opinion it is erroneous thinking, and it does exactly what you caution me elsewhere against: it ignores context. A simple example is your equating of Victoria's Secret cladding, which occurs in a free country and is conducted voluntarily by independent citizens, with the church-state government mandated wearing of the bhurka (and severe punishments for failure to comply). I mourn the need to explain why there is clearly no equivalence, and I respectfully decline to do so, at this time. You either get MY point, or you don't.
I don't really care to argue these issues here, as I don't see this venue as a discussion or debate forum. (It is, by the grace of Lisa, MY blog, after all.) But again I thank you for taking the time to comment, and I'll leave it up to readers to decide for themselves which position resonates best for them.
Happy New Year!
Andy
Hi Andy,
Yes it is your blog. However, you raised the topic yourself, and by virtue of the fact that there's a comment feature on your blog, you have invited people to comment and discuss the issues you are raising. I can understand if this is uncomfortable. After all, my own blog doesn't include a comment feature, meaning I get to pontificate to my heart's content and pretend everyone who reads agrees with me ;>).
There is one thing I want to say about your reply though. Your attempt to reduce my points to one of mere moral equivalency as the right wing imagines the left wing espousing is just a straw man argument on your part. A straw man, we immediately see, you waste no time in knocking down. However, since I've espoused no such moral equivalency argument your disagreement doesn't appear to have much to do with what I've said.
It is much more PC these days to brand Islam as evil than to defend Islam, yet you try to pin the PC label on me anyway. Oh well...
The bottom line is that every evil you pin on Islam is found in abundance in some other cultures as well. That shows that the source of evil is not found within one particular religion or ethnic group, but in how many different peoples approach and integrate their spiritual, ethical and social compasses. I believe the fact that such evil crops up in many different religions and cultural contexts confirms quite a bit of what Nichiren Daishi had to say about provisional doctrines and the superiority of the Lotus Sutra.
Hope you had a wonderful New Year, and, if I'm remembering your California location correctly, you've successfully avoided wildfires, earthquakes and mudslides this past year.
Richard
Hey all.
I saw a guy from Jihad Watch on C-SPAN.
http://jihadwatch.org/
P.
Richard, I just wanted to comment on this bit from you, when you wrote:
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It's not uncomfortable at all. I welcome intelligent copmmentary, which yours is. I am indeed rather gratified with the level of comments on all of my pieces, whether they are in agreement or disagreement. It seems as though the folks who look at my little realm here are a pretty sharp bunch.
Realize that I have "the power" here (if nowhere else!) and can delete any comments I choose, and that I have yet to delete any. You folks are great and I mean it when I say that I appreciate your input, all of you.
Thank you for your good wishes, Richard. Actually I live near the coast, in Cypress, California, so the recent disasters have not affected my family directly, but I appreciate your kind concern.
Wishing a brilliant new year to you, and to all of you fine folks who take the time to read these words,
Andy